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Old 04-02-2014, 11:51 PM   #1
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2 Questions about Carburetors

1. Whats the size of a stock Carburetor on a GY6 (150cc) scoot?
Is it 24 mm?

2. What does 'CVK' mean with Carburetors?




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Old 04-03-2014, 04:55 PM   #2
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Hey FC, I found this over on Modern Vespa, in the archives.

[You would expect that when you pull on the throttle a cable opens a slider on the carb. It may. The problem is then for a bit you're running quite lean as the air speed is decreased because of the larger volume opening. Then as the engine speeds up, gradually the air speed increases and Bernoulli starts sucking gasoline again. This give poor throttle response. This is compensated for on some carbs with a pump connected to the cable which will throw some raw gas into the chamber. Very primitive, dirty, and not common on small carbs.

On a CV (constant vacuum) carb, the slider is connected to a vacuum chamber. When you yank the throttle, you're opening a butterfly. The slider stays closed until the motor starts speeding up. This maintains good airflow speed. As the motor speeds up, the vacuum increases, pulling the slider out of the way.

Better, smoother throttle response, no lurching and consistent fuel/air ratio.

Simple mechanical solution.

Looking at your carb, if the cable goes right into it, usually at the top, you're not CV.

If the cable goes to an arm on the side, and there is a sort of bump at the top, you're CV.

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CVK, is constant vacume Keihin

Not that I knew, but I was curious also.
One of the mods I did to my scooter, along with rejetting, was to drill out the slide vacume port.
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Old 04-04-2014, 12:42 AM   #3
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CVK, is constant vacume Keihin

Not that I knew, but I was curious also.
One of the mods I did to my scooter, along with rejetting, was to drill out the slide vacume port.
thanks cheap, great info



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Old 04-04-2014, 08:13 PM   #4
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I think 24 sounds right, I read that going to a 30 improves performance, but I dunno
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:00 AM   #5
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Hey Frank, I found some great information about carb's over on another site I belong to.
It's an artical that really open up my eyes to how my Keihin works. I know not everyone is running that carb, but the thread really helped me.
http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewto...p?f=28&t=82639
BRed and his posts are gold.
Well thought out, great insight to mechanical issues and his write ups, have saved me hundreds of dollars. Heck, my scooter runs like a different machine with just following his threads.
I hope it helps you understand these carb's a bit anyway.



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Old 04-05-2014, 09:43 AM   #6
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CVK stands for Constant Vacuum Kiehin. 24mm is the correct stock size carb. 30mm DO NOT improve the performance of stock unmodified gy6 157/152/1p57 as they are too large. A 30mm FLAT-SLIDE carb is for a gy6 with engine mods, such as a significant BBK.

The cheapest and easiest way to get optimum carb performance is with a an open-element air filter and a larger main jet ( #110 to #125 for UNMODIFIED gy6 152/157/1p57) the 24mm is more than large enough for a stock engine.
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