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04-29-2014, 09:48 AM | #1 |
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I had my scooter "looked at" by a mechanic for hard starting. He supposedly swapped out the carbs, put new spark plug, and check the valve clearance.
Well none of that helped so I got into it myself. I found that the enricher tip was cutoff and the air fuel screw had the oring missing. Besides the fact that it was all kinds of dirt in the carb. Also I had an issue with the starter not spinning fast enough to turn the motor and sometimes would just spin... I had a bad engine ground.
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04-25-2014, 11:06 AM | #2 |
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You need to try the starting fluid. Behind the filter is a hole. Spray a little starting fluid into that and start your scooter.
Here is a youtube video on how to use starting fluid (fast forward to 3:48 in the video): Even works for a 4-stroke lawnmower engine: Last edited by antchainscoot; 04-25-2014 at 12:06 PM. |
04-30-2014, 03:45 PM | #3 |
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et too brute
I too had a failure to start, after it stranded me on the side of the road miles from home. I spent an entire day trying to get the issue resolved and nuthin I tried worked. I correctly diagnosed that there was an issue with the stator. But I took it to the dealer to have that sorted out. Just got the scooter in February and the engine has a 1 year warranty but some how they want even more than $200 to fix it. I will have them fully explain themselves before I give in.
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04-30-2014, 06:11 PM | #4 | |
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Does your 1 year warrenty cover the electrical system as well? if so then they should honor it and fix at no cost to you if its only the engine then its on you as ther stator is eletrical systerm related not engine related Here a copy oif what one of my scoots warrentys cover THIS LIMITED WARRANTY COVERS THE FOLLOWING PARTS ONLY: SYSTEM PARTS ENGINE All internal lubricated parts, i.e. Pistons, piston pins, connecting rods, camshaft, timing chain, crankshaft, oil pump, water pump, valves, valve springs, valve guides, valve seats, valve lifters and valve push rods. Additionally, the engine head and cylinder will only be covered if damage is caused as a result of the mechanical failure of one or more internal lubricated components listed above. ENGINE CASE The Engine case itself will only be covered if the damage caused was solely as a result of the mechanical failure of one or more of the internal lubricated components listed above. DRIVE SYSTEM All internal lubricated parts contained within the drive axle housing case, i.e. differential, differential gears, drive shaft, drive axles, axle bearings, reverse gears and output shafts. The drive axle housing as well as the reverse gearbox housing, if damaged solely as a result of the mechanical failure of one or more or the internal lubricated components contained the drive axle housing will be covered. (Any bent, broken, or damaged by outside impact does not cover warranty) FUEL SYSTEM Carburetor, vacuum fuel pump, intake manifold, fuel tank. ELECTRICAL Stator, stator pickup, magneto, voltage regulator\ rectifier, CDI, starter relay\ starter solenoid, starter motor, distributor assembly injector relay, cable, switch and horn. COOLING SYSTEM Radiator, radiator cap, thermostat, thermostat housing, temperature indicator switch, cooling fan motors, water pump and water pump housing. BRAKES Calipers, drum housings, drum brake linkage, reservoirs, rotors, and lines. CHASSIS Frame, swing arms, A-arms, steering controls. TRANSMISSION All internal lubricated parts contained within the transmission case, i.e. flywheel, hydraulic shift linkage, kick start spindle, kick start secondary gear and transmission gears. The transmission case itself will be covered if the damage was solely as a result of mechanical failure of one or more of the internal lubricated components contained within the transmission case. (Improper changing gears without stop completed cause damage internal gears. "No cover warranty") So check your warrenty to see what is covered and what isnt Hope yoiu get it fixed easily and to your satisfaction Take care4 and ride safely Yours Hank
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04-25-2014, 12:28 AM | #6 |
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04-25-2014, 03:45 PM | #7 |
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also check your throttle cable at the carb end. It can work loose. make sure the throttle screw hasn't backed out so that it no longer holds the carb at the run position. and don't give up. This is how we all learn...
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04-26-2014, 01:15 PM | #8 |
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decided to try and turn it on but its still the same, it did stay on but in a weak state for about 4 seconds but then it dies with some huffing and puffing in the end, this will be my last try, im off from work on Monday so i will be bringing it to a actual motorcycle mechanic shop, fingers crossed and hopefully they dont wont change me an arm and a leg to fix it, not only that but will have to waste money on a tow truck also i will update this thread once i know the diagnostic from the mechanic, stay tuned.
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04-27-2014, 08:19 PM | #9 |
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hi guys
i tried the starter fluid but to no avail, ohh well at least i tried...here is a video for your entertainment |
04-27-2014, 09:50 PM | #10 |
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Did you check your air tire pressure? Cause sometimes that throws off the 1.21 gigawatts needed to power your flux capacitor. or do like they do in Africa rub the engine with Cheetah-blood.
I hope you fix your problem soon. I will pray to baby jesus that the problem will be fixed with minor cost. Take care fellow scoot buddy |
04-28-2014, 12:45 AM | #11 |
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Adjust your valves! It's easy to do, and it's usually what causes problems with these scooters after they have been run for a while. Don't waste your money on a tow and mechanic until after you do the valve adjustment. (But I bet that will solve the problem.)
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04-28-2014, 01:52 PM | #12 |
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Update:: ok i left the scoot at the mechanic shop, they said they will check it, its a real motorcycle shop so they what they are doing, found a cheaper option than a tow truck. I rented a pick up from Uhaul, lets see what happens...stay tuned folks, in the mean time, i saw my favorite motorcycle there, i did a small video, i think im addicted to making videos, lol
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04-28-2014, 07:55 PM | #13 |
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Hopefully they don't charge much to do a valve adjustment.
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04-29-2014, 03:47 PM | #14 |
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Update:: Ok guys, are you ready to know how much i got ripped off, the total was $165.00 here comes the good part, the mechanic said it was 2 things. He said the fuel line that i replaced had too much slack and the fuel pump wont have enough power to fuel the carb. And the second part was that the mixture and the idle speed screws were off. Now the reason i had some slack was because i wanted to put my fuel line in a downward angle plus i wanted it out of the way so i can put my bucket storage thingy. I did have some trouble adjusting the idle mixture and speed screws. The mechanic made my fuel line how it was stock, which is more of a straight line so i guess making your fuel line in a downward angle for better fuel flow is a myth...well there you have it, the scoot is running fine now, Ohh and dont forget i wasted money on a Uhaul pick up to bring the scoot to the shop...smh
Lesson Learned: never re-route hoses or fuel lines Last edited by Frank Castle; 04-29-2014 at 04:27 PM. |
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