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Old 06-17-2017, 07:57 PM   #1
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How to help a cheapskate?

I have a friend who has around 40,000-yes-40,000 miles on his 03 Honda Metropolitan. Its getting a little long in the tooth and he really needs to just get something new or gently used. He keeps dumping money into this thing and stuff still breaks! I did take him by the Adly dealer and he got to test ride a Bullseye with a 70cc kit and sit on a sexy new white GTA, but he keeps going "But once mines fixed I can ride it again.". At least he now realizes how slow and tiny his Metro is. How do I get him to even consider a new or gently used scooter? He missed out on the 09 Zuma 50cc that I sold for $400, so that should have been a sign. I'm sick of working on GET motors! Im a 2 stroke guy at heart!



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Old 06-18-2017, 10:03 AM   #2
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So this is what cheapskate guy did. New parts were around $100 but he ordered them from FleaBay for $25 used. I asked if the place had a refund offer in place and/or a warranty of any type, but he was just looking at price and ordered them.
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Old 06-18-2017, 12:00 PM   #3
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I had a "friend" that was always getting new parts from me (my fault) with the promise of-I'll pay you later , I'm broke right now! I finally realized that he always had money for booze & dope but not for the parts! I finally wised up & started to take some of his things until he paid me. I got a nice sterio that way. You just have to wise up & stop being a nice guy! Irish
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Old 06-18-2017, 02:13 PM   #4
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I have a friend who has around 40,000-yes-40,000 miles on his 03 Honda Metropolitan. Its getting a little long in the tooth and he really needs to just get something new or gently used. He keeps dumping money into this thing and stuff still breaks! I did take him by the Adly dealer and he got to test ride a Bullseye with a 70cc kit and sit on a sexy new white GTA, but he keeps going "But once mines fixed I can ride it again.". At least he now realizes how slow and tiny his Metro is. How do I get him to even consider a new or gently used scooter? He missed out on the 09 Zuma 50cc that I sold for $400, so that should have been a sign. I'm sick of working on GET motors! Im a 2 stroke guy at heart!
He loves his scoot. Would you dump the one you loved in her youth to get a skinny new one. And he spent $25 on her, good for another 5000 miles.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:21 AM   #5
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If he was paying a shop to work on this worn out scooter it would be very different. He says he's broke, and I understand being tight on money, but there has to be a breaking point. Breaking point is were this Metro is at right now. Its so worn out that stuff is failing that normal riders never see. Its his only transportation because of medical issues. Oh well, at least he got to taste the power of a 70cc 2 stroke with front disc brakes and 12" wheels. I just dread when he calls me with a problem because it always gets worse when you get into it. This problem was technically not his fault. He never knew to change the reduction box/transmission oil and its not listed in the service manual as needing to be done! It seems the factory oil does not go as high mileage as he has, and the case got a small crack and the oil drained out. The whole rear of the scoot has been covered in oil forever, and he told me it was motor oil because he never put the washer back on the drain plug. Live and learn I guess. He's just lucky I help him with it because he's a friend and I know his situation.
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Old 06-20-2017, 01:32 AM   #6
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Seems like if he got it all together and working right, he could save himself trouble by keeping on top of it by doing regular inspection and maintenance... instead of riding it until something breaks down... You know the adage "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure"
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:30 AM   #7
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Old 06-20-2017, 12:08 PM   #8
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Thats deep Roscoe! I just look at as if I help out him out then he may pay it forward and help someone else. Thats usually all I ask, pay it forward. I have a pretty good career so money is not a motivation BUT you cant buy time and I have a social life. I dont believe in Karma or the "What goes around/comes around" stuff, I just wanna see people smile and be pleasant towards each other. I know he will stay on top of the gear oil now though! This scooter being down and messed him up pretty good. He moved back home with his parents and he cant escape! Used part from FleaBay should be here this week. Going to take it into work, clean it in the parts cleaner and run it thru a Magnaflux crack checker! Not going thru this nonsense again!
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Old 06-21-2017, 04:06 PM   #9
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Maybe , after ALL these years , I'm just not as soft touch anymore. When the same people hit you up for the same things , time after time , it's you that's being stupid. After awhile , you look at your bank account & realse who the real sucker is. Don't get me wrong. I'm all for helping someone , but after helping with the SAME things , it gets old! Irish
P.S. I was going to start another shop here but like my wife said , you're 73 now & do you reallyneed ALL that grief? Besides the parts , you have to keep up with ALL the NEW additions. As usual , she was right!

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Old 06-22-2017, 07:59 AM   #10
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Sounds like your friend is really on hard times, not being cheap. He couldn't even afford rent!

You're doing the right thing by helping him out however you can.

Since he's back with his parents now, can you talk him into letting him help you find a new scooter? He's not paying as much rent now, right? That one is cashed. Help him find a lightly-used Japanese 125 or 150. He'll be delighted.

My mom used to keep fixing her old 86 Escort, even when it was breaking every month. Until it wad costing more than a car payment. Your friend isn't quite there yet.
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