Three Variator Weights?

[techie610]

Lighter Weights make for fast take off and accl.
Heavier weights have more top speed.
Most of the time, anyways. But if you tweak you CVT, there are too many possibilities to count. not to mention, different bike, rider and bike weights, and environmental changes.

Sliders also have a different effect than rollers, even at the same weight.
Keep us posted with your findings.

[lykos23]

Originally Posted by techie610

Lighter Weights make for fast take off and accl.
Heavier weights have more top speed.
Most of the time, anyways. But if you tweak you CVT, there are too many possibilities to count. not to mention, different bike, rider and bike weights, and environmental changes.

Sliders also have a different effect than rollers, even at the same weight.
Keep us posted with your findings.

Well, after some searching through google and other forums, I've found other scooter riders that have tried using only 3 weights in their variator as opposed to the usual six, and what it seems to do is simply divide the weight in half while doubling the speed in which they wear out. Since I'll only be using 3 weights for less than a week I'm not worried about wearing them out, especially since I only need 3 of them and I have another 3 in my pack.

Right now I'm using dr. pulley 9g sliders, and I'm only using 3 of them inside my variator. Doing so has increased my speed and takeoff dramatically.

With six 6.5g rollers my top speed is about 45mph downhill (though I've hit 50mph in a few instances), my flat terrain speed is about 35mph, and uphill I go around 29-30mph.

With six 9g sliders my takeoff is slow, my flat terrain speed is barely 34mph (because I can't go higher between stopsigns or stoplights), my uphill speed is barely 25mph, and downhill I can barely go 44mph.

With 3 6.5g rollers and 3 9g sliders my speed is a bit better, I can go around 25mph uphill, 35 on flat terrain, and about 44-45mph downhill. It's very similar to just using six 9g sliders.

Now I'm using just three 9g sliders (which should be equivalent to 6 4.5g sliders) and everything is dramatically faster. I can almost hit 40mph on flat terrain, I go 30-35mph uphill, and I can hit 50mph downhill with ease.

When my 4g sliders arrive I plan on mixing them with my 9g to attain a 6.5g slider combination, this is equal in weight to my 6.5g rollers which should mean it is equivalent to 5.5g rollers which will increase my takeoff by a bit, and since they're dr. pulley my topend should be higher despite being lighter than stock. It is incredible the difference these small tweaks do.

I'll update once I finally get my 4g sliders in the mail.

[lykos23]

Originally Posted by techie610

Keep us posted with your findings.

I hope nobody thinks I forgot to update here

I got my 38 idle jet, v slides, and all my weights now and I think I'm going to have to re test all my speeds since I'm now able to take the tape off of my filter without bogging out my idle.

Starting with all 4g weights, at 267lbs on a 2009 peace sports 50, 63cc scooter, only now with an unrestricted freeflow filter.

4g:
35mph uphill

40mph flat terrain

45mph downhill


Three 4g and three 9g:

32+mph uphill, 28mph GPS

40mph flat terrain, 37mph GPS

50mph downhill, 43mph GPS

Next I'll try all 9s again. I'll probably be updating this post all day so I can finally compile my findings.

[lykos23]

Ironic... Now that I try to test all the speeds of the weights without the variable of a restricted freeflow and now my speedometer puck is broken... Ugh.

First it started driving with the speedo indicator stick shaking back and forth and now it's just unresponsive. Gonna have to buy a new puck. -sigh-

[lykos23]

Since my speedo puck broke I decided to use my tablet and the app "Ulysse's speedometer" to test what speed I'm going. I can't look at the thing while I'm driving, but at the end of the trip I'm able to see my top speeds.

So I've been driving on long stretches of consistent roads and pulling over and checking what speed I've been going. Then I jot it down on paper so I don't forget, and then once I'm done I bring it here for you guys to check out.

I'll be adding the above post with all my speeds to the first post of this forum and probably updating as I test these weights and their true capacities.