If I know, the way I look at it, is explaining how things work to a person with a problem or even others that are responding helps everyone. If they did not know now they know and can in the future help others with that knowledge.

If the explanation actually corrected someones bogus suggestion or advice may cause bad feelings instead of taking the information given and storing it in his or her brain for future use that is find with me. It is better to set things straight IF you know and not have the person with a problem sent in the wrong direction looking for the problem.

A very good example I see a lot of is "PUT IN A BIGGER JET" when nothing was changed on the scoot and it was running fine for hundreds and or thousands of miles before it started acting up. That is wrong advice and or suggestion plain and simple.

That is just one story in the big city so be carefull out there.

For those that know me I do not mean to offend anyone I may at times be blunt and to the point but that comes with age so they say, so don't take it personnal. I do not dilly dally or beat around the bush or throw kissies just to have someone like me.

There is a saying that goes like this which is so true:
If you do not have an enemy your doing something wrong.
Lefty

Hello all! Well after work I couldn't wait to start troubleshooting the starting problems, so after a while i figured out what the problem was. It's the starter that's no good! I got 12 volts going to the starter off the solenoid so I removed the starter and put it on 12 volts and it still didn't work. Last night I was watching some scoot videos on youtube and a guy was showing how the starters can get contaminated with oil and stop working. So I took the starter apart and it was full of oil! I took a picture of it and have it below. I have a new one on order and should arrive Friday. Can't wait to get back on the road. Thanks to all who helped me troubleshoot this because I was puzzled!


http://i608.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps304e0580.jpg

Bummer but I'm glad you found it. Friday is not that far away.

Fantastic Beo, great news and as you found out it was easy to take out. Hope your riding soon.
Lefty

Great news beo, glad you found the problem and thanks for sharing that pic with us, Just a suggestion when working on scoot, I always mark on my calender, what I did or what part I put on and what the milliage was. (keep good records so you can track what you did).

this is all a great read and finally a solution.. but the can of worms is now opened...

I don't know anything, but how is your starter all filled with oil unless you already have some type of serious oil leak that should be addressed as it could/will be a fatal problem eventually?

You and scootwin keep this up i might call mtv and try to get a reality tv show going eh?

Your a day late and a scoot short(HAHA), just a bump in the road as they say. It was nothing really, run into this sort of thing all the time some really get nasty using all kinds of dirty words. So your out of luck no BIRD DOG FEE.

The seal on the Starter is shot that is why it filled up with oil.
Lefty

Well I put the new starter in last Saturday and it fired up like a champ. I love it when a plan comes together! Yes, I saw in the youtube video that the seal on the starter wears down and over time oil gets into it. This must have been happening for a while because sometimes it would take a few cranks to get it started, then it stopped cranking totally. When I fired up the bike with the new starter in it, I couldn't believe it. It started so fast, something I've never seen before. Unfortunately there's snow outside so I can't ride it now, but as soon as I have the opportunity I'll have it on the road. Thanks for all the help guys!

I am new to this site, so I am sorry to interupt your thread. I Don't know how to start a new one.
I have a 2008 Jonway 250. It was running fine then I shut it off now it turns over slowly at best. The engine turns over fine with a wrench. Does anyone have a clue? I will try to figure out how to start my own thread with more details.

Sounds like a dead battery did you try charging it...?

lol.. here we go again