OK, now I'm sooo confused on where this is headed.
I read the first post and got confused.

All I know is my girlfriend has a 150 gys wildfire helix clone
it has 5000 miles on it, and all I've done is change the oil regularly

I also have a 1100 shadow Sabre, and a Goldwing, and a wrecked (now repaired) magna V45.

So, I missed the point

there fun to customize, i know this guy with these super cool exhausts.....lol

i agree with the original poster, gy6 are way better than 5 yrs ago...

I've heard it said that these engines are made of pot metal, now I would like for someone to prove it.

Here's one for you!
 

My buddy,Ackworthpatrick on the Auto Moto forum has 40,000 miles on his Auto Moto trike! It's a gy6 150ZK that its out 9 hp mostly standard the only mods,performance orange CDI,Coil and wire, NGK plugs. And ,it's still going strong commuting every day. In fact he's considering doing the upcoming Cannonball Run.
There aren't many gy6 engines achieving that kind of milage in the USA, a few top that in Japan and China.


Cannon Ball Test Run this weekend =-)
So I did my first mock cannon ball test run yesterday, left at 8am and rode 263 miles in total returning home at 10pm. It was an awesome day and I rode through several small towns in GA, TN and AL. I made this loop without ever being more than 90 miles from home at the max since it was essentially a big circle. I had 0 trouble with the bike and rode at 50 on roads like the 30 minutes I uploaded for more than 50 miles at a time. Bike averaged 63.4mpg. Never used any oil and seemed to handle the abuse well.

One thing I noticed is after an hour of steady 50mph I'd get a pop in the exhaust as I slowed to a stop but otherwise it was just perfect. I was quite pleased honestly and it exceeded my expectations in every way. My arse however is sore LOL!!!!! I took lots of video and can upload more if anyone cares to see it, but it was basically more of this same thing. This run gives me alot more confidence in the idea that this bike can handle it.

Patrick
2010 Automoto w/ 39,000 miles
2008 Suzuki Burgman 400 w/ 8200 miles
http://www.everythingautomoto.com/

This thread inspired my new signature :cheers:

I've changed spark plugs, new forks,
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How are those forks working out for you? I have the Evo, I'm 220 pounds, the Evo is heavier than your P max, and the thing rides like a Half Track! Pretty brutal on San Antonio roads. We don't spend as much on resurfacing our roads because it's all going to border security. Because of the border security we have less people willing to resurface roads. Get it?:taunt:

I think the OP is meaning he can buy a Chinese scoot and modify it to be close to a big 4 or Italian for half the price of the later. The other guys are saying no way! I agree with both parties. My old XR80 was BULLETPROOF! My moms mid 80's Elite was BULLETPROOF. But now I'm tinkering with my Chinese scooter to make it reliable. I'm too new to know how this Tao Tao will last, but I think I'm getting it there. But I do know I've always ridden Jap sport bikes and they're built well. Very well. I also know that when I'm done with my second house and commuting 22 miles one way to work in back country with limited cell service I'll be on a Honda (or other big 4). But my Tao Tao is perfect for my one way 10 ish a mile per day commute now, in the city, with cell service which I just needed 2 days ago, and huge cracks in the road that are ruining everything.

["Upgraded gy6 are the same as vespa or honda" ]
I own a chinagirl, and I own Honda, and when you take their clothes off, and see them naked side by side, you may wish to rethink your sig.
Just my $.02

i DO NOT wish to rethink my sig, i stand by it 100%...if you have read my sig CORRECTLY it says "upgraded" so if you put them naked side to side with a upgraded gy6, its a different story plus there are more gy6 in the streets than brand name scoots in the us...

Hi
Got to say i agrere with you 100 %
I own and ride all makes and brands and upgrade all my chinese scoots to their max
But even with all the upgrades in the world they dont come close to the quality of my aprilia
You do get what you pay for when you buy a top brand
Its like comparting a ferrari or other high end car with a basic domestic car
Now dont get me wrong i love all my motorbikes its just i do know and accept the differences in quality between them
Take care and ride safely my friend
Yours Hank

sounds like a bias answer, you cant compare a ferrari to a scoot...lol

Hi
:taunt::lmao:
http://vespalexington.com/2009/08/fe...a-piaggio-mp3/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/bike...made-a-scooter
Take care and ride safely my friend
Yours Hank

im hard to convince, still not convinced :taunt:

Hi
:no::doh:
Try owning and riding a high end scoot first and see if you still think the same once you compare them over time
Take care and ride safely my friend
Yours Hank