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mopedhi
10-11-2013, 01:17 AM
today my vento 2 stroke stopped for no reason while i was cruzin
when i started it up and revving it i noticed there was no smoke from the exhaust

teddy554
10-11-2013, 03:14 PM
it kind of bogs down until shuts off, loses all power and sounds way different then normal, just cutting off aint soft seizing and lack off oil will cause a soft but going by the sight of smoke from the pipe isn't 100 percent either, neither of my 2t smoke from the pipe

prodigit
10-12-2013, 01:00 AM
From what teddy explains, could it feel like while riding you just flick the engine kill switch?

skuttadawg
10-12-2013, 02:17 AM
I had a bad seize and it locked up the rear tire . I had it softseize twice on another engine but it fired up after it cooled no problem . Soft seize is when your running too lean like too small of a main jet or too much oil . Pull out yoursparkplug and compare it to this chart to get an idea on how the jetting is http://www.4secondsflat.com/plug_chart.html

Oil pump adjustment to avoid a soft seize http://49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/3151

mopedhi
10-12-2013, 02:46 AM
I had a bad seize and it locked up the rear tire . I had it softseize twice on another engine but it fired up after it cooled no problem . Soft seize is when your running too lean like too small of a main jet or too much oil . Pull out yoursparkplug and compare it to this chart to get an idea on how the jetting is http://www.4secondsflat.com/plug_chart.html

Oil pump adjustment to avoid a soft seize http://49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/3151yea my rear wheel locked up too, i premix 40:1 since the oil pump is broken

using stock airbox, 85 main jet, it did fire up after a few seconds

skuttadawg
10-12-2013, 02:58 AM
50 or 70cc ? Who told you to use 40 to 1 ?

mopedhi
10-12-2013, 03:19 AM
70cc, someone from a local forum said 40:1 for 70cc kit

skuttadawg
10-12-2013, 03:28 AM
Its old but here is some premix info http://www.bridgestonemotorcycle.com/documents/oilpremix6.pdf I used 50 to 1 in my pedal mopeds

prodigit
10-14-2013, 08:56 PM
50:1 sometimes gives problems, I had the same oil for my mopeds.
They recommend 16:1, but in reality that's too much oil.
Most people use a 32:1 ratio. Using 50:1 generally causes more engine wear.