Has anybody tried these speakers? (DWG)

[spandi]

Saw these on youtube, checked them out and they look pretty good.:tup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3bDi8Cy76g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Tq2DbXe16s&feature=player_embedded
http://www.dwgspeakers.com/

[Admin]

Pretty neat, and the prices don't seem too bad really.

[prodigit]

Spam alert!!!

[inuyasha]

Spam alert!!!
Hi
What are you talking about? i see nothing spam like about this thread
Just a friend talking about speakers, perhaps he wants to put them on his scoot
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[prodigit]

Ok, thought since it was in general scoot topics, not in off topic that it's flagged as spam.

[inuyasha]

Ok, thought since it was in general scoot topics, not in off topic that it's flagged as spam.
Hi
It matters not where the thread is located
Spandi the author of this thread is an old and dear friend to most of us from other scoot forums, he would never post spam of that im quite sure
And they are motorcycle speakers hes discussing and we are on a scooter forum
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[spandi]

Nope, not spam I am. (or even green eggs and ham) Just saw these and thought they looked pretty good, better than a lot of Junk audio stuff for motorcycles and scooters, that sounds awful or stops working a month after you put it in. (and yes I'm going to get a set so I can listen to all my Francoise Hardy albums (shameless music plug) while the beautiful SoCal scenery rolls by.) Thanks for the "clarification" Hank.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFit18xqnac

P.S. I also like them cause they almost spell D(A)WG!

[larrball]

I like them too spandi even thou im not much for music when riding simply because i always have a FFH on and for me i would need something more in the line of inside helmet.
Still doesn't mean i wouldn't install a set in to the front part of the VIP's glove box.

[spandi]

Well thank you for saying so larrball. I just wanted to bring it to your attention, as I figure any speaker that can play after being dunked underwater has got to be made with at least a modicum of care

[scootnwinn]

Did you get it all back together yet? How do they sound on the road?

[inuyasha]

Hi
Im thinking of trying a system from Cycle Sounds on one of my scoots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rWd8paF2A
http://www.cyclesounds.com/?gclid=CNGhiu_Ms7UCFYdlOgodNh0A1Q
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[spandi]

Haven't gotten them yet Scootnwin, (i'll let you know) Right now I'm still getting the scoot back together. yesterday, I was putting in stainless steel 6mm threaded rod in the CVT cover area (screwed into the plate) so I don't have to spend an eternity trying to fish those long bolts into the holes. :nuts:

[spandi]

Hi
Im thinking of trying a system from Cycle Sounds on one of my scoots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rWd8paF2A
http://www.cyclesounds.com/?gclid=CNGhiu_Ms7UCFYdlOgodNh0A1Q
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours HankNice Hank, Let us know how it works out (good project to do in these last few weeks before the roads are clear again.)

[prodigit]

My 2ct:
most speakers with poly cones can stand water. If they've got silk dome tweeters, some of the high end will be affected when you use them in rain until the water dries out.
About quality, generally plastic/poly coned drivers are ok, but tweeters need to be silk or some kind of metal alloy like titanium to be good. I don't think I heard many good sounding plastic tweeters, neither alu dome tweeters.
Alu-dome tweeters sound just average.. Paper tweeters sound warm, but can't stand water.
Titanium sounds the best (generally speaking).
A good speaker has a matching bass reflex cabinet.
Since most scooter speakers are handling around 40W max, you will want speakers with a cabinet rated 160Hz-20kHz, not lower than 80Hz, or a lot of the sound quality will get lost in lows you won't be able to hear anyway while riding...

If you can get your hands on alu-cast speakers, they'll last longer than steel cast, or steel stamped, as steel and water don't work well together.

I yet have to find a good sounding speaker for the scoot. If you could only integrate a set of studio monitors in a scoot's housing, but that does not seem to be a very easy job.

[spandi]

For the money these seem to work pretty well. :nod:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKA59OWT_WU
(the guy should really be wearing a helmet!) even for a test.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB7BQ4rlOqk

P.S. I always thought the acid test was how the speakers perform while riding.

[chindog]

Re: that first video....

What speakers?

(heh heh)

[spandi]

Re: that first video....

What speakers?

(heh heh)You're supposed to be looking at the pair.....OF SPEAKERS :no:

[spandi]

Hi
Im thinking of trying a system from Cycle Sounds on one of my scoots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rWd8paF2A
http://www.cyclesounds.com/?gclid=CNGhiu_Ms7UCFYdlOgodNh0A1Q
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours HankHank I thought you might want to see this (If you haven't already) This rather ingenious gentleman has set up his sound system with it's own 12 volt deep cycle battery, so that his electrical's don't get over loaded or drained.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvyiSSdJSh8

[inuyasha]

Hank I thought you might want to see this (If you haven't already) This rather ingenious gentleman has set up his sound system with it's own 12 volt deep cycle battery, so that his electrical's don't get over loaded or drained.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvyiSSdJSh8
Hi
Outstanding
I was thinking of going with a seperate battery for the stereo amp just have to put it on the battery tender every night to ensure a full charge for the next day of use
Thanks ever some much for posting the video, it shall be of great help to me
Take care and ride safely dear friend
Yours Hank

[spandi]

You're most welcome. BTW, he does just as you said, and puts it on a tender at night.

[prodigit]

Depending on how many watts the radio is.

Check Amazon for an amplifier called LePai LP-2020A.
It's a very tiny bright sounding amp, peaks at 25Watt, but it's usable range is 2x7W RMS @8Ohms per channel, or ~12-15W @4ohms per channel.
It's not very powerful, but if your speakers are efficient enough, this amp might be just good for the small cruises.
Those small amps are really great if your SPL levels of speakers are above 89dB W m

I suppose those water speakers aren't very efficient.. Perhaps in the seventies or beginning 80's of dB.

They have a Dayton Audio DTA-100a amp, with 2x15W, which is not going to be much louder, but is more expensive.

These amps will not draw more power than your scoot can supply!
In fact, the Lepai LP-2020A uses merely 2W in stand by, and just as long as you have sufficient efficient speakers, they work quite nice!

I have one of them installed in my livingroom, powering 2xBIC America floor speakers (the one with the 4 drivers), and it's more sufficient to watch movies.
Those BIC's are 89dB SPL though, so they're pretty loud by themselves.

The LP-2020A uses less power at max volume, than my Yamaha Surround amplifier, which uses 30W just being on, without music...

You might as well just install a larger capacity battery (like a 9A battery).

[spandi]

Depending on how many watts the radio is.

Check Amazon for an amplifier called LePai LP-2020A.
It's a very tiny bright sounding amp, peaks at 25Watt, but it's usable range is 2x7W RMS @8Ohms per channel, or ~12-15W @4ohms per channel.
It's not very powerful, but if your speakers are efficient enough, this amp might be just good for the small cruises.
Those small amps are really great if your SPL levels of speakers are above 89dB W m

I suppose those water speakers aren't very efficient.. Perhaps in the seventies or beginning 80's of dB.

They have a Dayton Audio DTA-100a amp, with 2x15W, which is not going to be much louder, but is more expensive.

These amps will not draw more power than your scoot can supply!
In fact, the Lepai LP-2020A uses merely 2W in stand by, and just as long as you have sufficient efficient speakers, they work quite nice!

I have one of them installed in my livingroom, powering 2xBIC America floor speakers (the one with the 4 drivers), and it's more sufficient to watch movies.
Those BIC's are 89dB SPL though, so they're pretty loud by themselves.

The LP-2020A uses less power at max volume, than my Yamaha Surround amplifier, which uses 30W just being on, without music...

You might as well just install a larger capacity battery (like a 9A battery).If you check he's got a 100 watt system in his scoot, also went to the DWG website to find the db rating for speakers, (no such luck...yet) I just might call them tomorrow for the low-down, but I suspect they may indeed be louder than you might think.

[prodigit]

The trick is to find good and efficient speakers.
Some speakers work like crap, and need a poweramp to power them.

I've heard some speakers 82dB SPL, powered by a 100W power amp, while 89dB SPL speakers can be just as loud with just 1/4th of that power.

For every +3dB you need to double the amp's power.
Choosing good speakers, is a first step.